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CaterhamKev wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:32 pm

Ali Tait wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:08 am Oh yes, not a film, but Band of Brothers was great too.

The Pacific is an eye opener. The book it is based on, With the old breed by Eugene Sledge is even more so.

Yes, enjoyed that too, both great TV.

Battle of Britain
The Dam Busters

War films in my humble opinion are shit. The nilhism, sacrifice, hardship, loss, stupidity and tragedy of war deosnt need cellouiod.

Most weeks I take a walk around the area where Operation Market Garden took place, filmed as 'A Bridge Too Far'.

Another film about the Dutch resistance, called 'Oorlogswinter' (Winter in Wartime), was partially filmed here in the village.

This farmhouse has stood for 300 years and seen several invasions. Bullet holes are still visible in the hay-loft where German occupation troops shot through the bales with machine guns, there was a concealed, metal-lined cubby hole in one corner where Allied airmen hid en route back to England. The house next-door was owned by NSB collaborators and the Germans had a field kitchen here behind the barn.

2 British airmen died when their Mosquito crashed near the village, their grave is where the annual Remembrance Day ceremony is held.

Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:32 pm War films in my humble opinion are shit. The nilhism, sacrifice, hardship, loss, stupidity and tragedy of war deosnt need cellouiod.

That's a remarkably daft thing to say. When people in (western) society have largely been personally uninvolved in any kind of warfare for 75 years or so and their understanding of conflict is largely based on video games I'd suggest film was an entirely appropriate medium to examine all of the concepts you mention.

It remarkably daft to presume you get a picture of warfare from a film. There are at least a dozen better sources.

'Catch 22'. Great satirical war movie.

Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:32 pm War films in my humble opinion are shit. The nilhism, sacrifice, hardship, loss, stupidity and tragedy of war deosnt need cellouiod.

Wars are never great,but what would the world have been like if our fathers/grand fathers had not stood up against the Nazi's. There was something on tv a couple of weeks ago, I cannot remember the exact percentage, but many of the younger generation did not know who Hitler was, many thinking he was a fictional character. I would like to think films made about war help people remember, and also how pointless it all is. Unfortunately, a madman comes along occasionally and thinks he can do what he wants, Saddam springs to mind, that never learn.
I think all my favourite films have been mentioned already, but I will say Zulu is my all time favourite.

I find 'Der Untergang' with Bruno Ganz playing Hitler in his last days as the Russians invade Berlin to be an exceptionally good psychological portrait.

The best war films often deal with the effects of extreme situations on the human character. In a war-scenario things that are usually seen as impossible can be made to happen - like Science Fiction.