Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
"Which of Labour's policies do you object to?"
Pretty well all of them! I loathe and detest socialism with a passion. And before anybody asks, our household income is significantly less than median UK household income. But we do not smoke, we drink very little, never go abroad, do not eat out etc. etc. It's called self-reliance and thrift, along with not whining about how unfair it is that X earns so much more than Y etc. Socialism is, IMO, the politics of spite and envy and uncomfortably closely related to its kissing cousin, Fascism.
Not that New Labour were really 'socialist', but perhaps it's no coincidence that Labour's 'Third Way' was directly pulled from Mussolini's 'Third Position' -economic policy that is neither communist nor capitalist. Those other 1920's socialists headed by Mr Hilter (Python reference) were not dissimilar.
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Pretty well all of them! I loathe and detest socialism with a passion. And before anybody asks, our household income is significantly less than median UK household income. But we do not smoke, we drink very little, never go abroad, do not eat out etc. etc. It's called self-reliance and thrift, along with not whining about how unfair it is that X earns so much more than Y etc. Socialism is, IMO, the politics of spite and envy and uncomfortably closely related to its kissing cousin, Fascism.
Not that New Labour were really 'socialist', but perhaps it's no coincidence that Labour's 'Third Way' was directly pulled from Mussolini's 'Third Position' -economic policy that is neither communist nor capitalist. Those other 1920's socialists headed by Mr Hilter (Python reference) were not dissimilar.
I await the flames!
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
That's crap.
It's taken from English sociologist Anthony Giddens. You'll find the philophical and sociological basis in most of Giddens work, but especially 'the constitution of society'
Were ever you got the mussolini crap from, best not repeat it. You'll make yourself look foolish.
It's taken from English sociologist Anthony Giddens. You'll find the philophical and sociological basis in most of Giddens work, but especially 'the constitution of society'
Were ever you got the mussolini crap from, best not repeat it. You'll make yourself look foolish.
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
Which, in particular, of Labour's policies?Simon Hickie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:13 am Socialism is, IMO, the politics of spite and envy and uncomfortably closely related to its kissing cousin, Fascism.
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
Savvypaul: pretty well all taxation policy for starters, especially on direct taxation; pretty well all policies on taking any industries back into public ownership; I find a lot of the 'equality' stuff pretty vacuous too. I remain unconvinced that the NHS and education are hugely underfunded, with both being extraordinarily inefficient in places (BTW, my better half & I spent the bulk of our careers in the public sector - health & education respectively).
I thought you might chip in DQ! I have my sources, but will follow your advice not to repeat them for fear of making you look foolish in turn
I thought you might chip in DQ! I have my sources, but will follow your advice not to repeat them for fear of making you look foolish in turn
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Look at the Labour front bench and tell me this lot are in any way capable of running the country. Anyway socialism aside they are charlatans and liars. Seem to remember them saying they would respect the referendum result. Fat chance. Also their spending plans would put us back to 2010 in a year. Also I don't believe they like Jews which reminds me of comparisons with someone else.
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DQ - really? Whatever.
Classicrock, I pretty well agree with your observations. I know that Labour would like to blame the disastrous state of the economy in 2010 on the
bankers. However, the public finances were heading horribly in the wrong direction well before the proverbial hit the fan in 2008. Naturally this was not helped by Brown's catastrophic financial regulatory changes. It was of course natural to blame the bankers (with some justification), who were also the target of both Marx and Hitler. Marx was clearly antisemitic - "The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism" for example.
Classicrock, I pretty well agree with your observations. I know that Labour would like to blame the disastrous state of the economy in 2010 on the
bankers. However, the public finances were heading horribly in the wrong direction well before the proverbial hit the fan in 2008. Naturally this was not helped by Brown's catastrophic financial regulatory changes. It was of course natural to blame the bankers (with some justification), who were also the target of both Marx and Hitler. Marx was clearly antisemitic - "The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism" for example.
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
Corbyn is a fossil from a bygone era who should be despatched to a museum. The unelected bufoon at number ten is providing life support.
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Re: Corbyn is an evil upstart monkey........
+1Classicrock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:36 pm Look at the Labour front bench and tell me this lot are in any way capable of running the country. Anyway socialism aside they are charlatans and liars. Seem to remember them saying they would respect the referendum result. Fat chance. Also their spending plans would put us back to 2010 in a year. Also I don't believe they like Jews which reminds me of comparisons with someone else.
I think Farage is better than Corbyn and BoJo should switch of life support immediately.