Forums and NVA
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:08 pm
There seems to be perfectly good reason why NVA has problems on forums, they try to shift the blame on to me and my honesty about the industry, but I am beginning to see it differently.
At least AoS is honest in its admission if not the process. Marco states he wants to stop any sales of NVA being generated by his forum, even if he has to impose Nazi like censorship to ensure it.
PFM is very similar but not official but any post about nva mostly removed especially if it involves praise.
Wigwam, I avoided any form of promotion because I knew that at least some of the mods were of the same mind to block me. They seem to have won.
Other forums have no interest in all this nonsense, and Audio Talk even faced down an attempt to troll the forum to pieces to try and block me - didn't work.
The problem they face is if anyone gets to try NVA in their system then on current figures well over 90% buy it, that is quite definitely not true of ANY other product. This is because of price and musical quality. Where as because of price and musical quality the rest of the industry is scared shitless of us, well not so much us as we are too small, but the principles in the way we operate and do business. If others joined us most of the middlemen would lose their slurp, and for me that is what is behind this attempted isolation.
So in the future anyway I can I will get stuff into peoples systems, try to make it that they cannot resist to try it. Even if that involves loss leaders and exceptional bargains, as I know once it is there it will stick, and I will make my living from the upgrades.
It will be targeted as I see different products being promoted at intervals, and hopefully lots of trade ins to give bargains as well. If I target a product range, like the one on the 20th for interconnect cables, I can buy components at a better rate, and make production runs instead of build to order which is always faster and more cost effective, so it will be this extra profit margin that will be passed back to you as discount.
Obviously I cannot predict when we will do this on which products, so some may feel cut out of the bargain if they buy normally. Just have a moan at me, all situations are different, and time since sale will come into it, BUT If I feel you have unfairly missed out on a bargain I will compensate.
At least AoS is honest in its admission if not the process. Marco states he wants to stop any sales of NVA being generated by his forum, even if he has to impose Nazi like censorship to ensure it.
PFM is very similar but not official but any post about nva mostly removed especially if it involves praise.
Wigwam, I avoided any form of promotion because I knew that at least some of the mods were of the same mind to block me. They seem to have won.
Other forums have no interest in all this nonsense, and Audio Talk even faced down an attempt to troll the forum to pieces to try and block me - didn't work.
The problem they face is if anyone gets to try NVA in their system then on current figures well over 90% buy it, that is quite definitely not true of ANY other product. This is because of price and musical quality. Where as because of price and musical quality the rest of the industry is scared shitless of us, well not so much us as we are too small, but the principles in the way we operate and do business. If others joined us most of the middlemen would lose their slurp, and for me that is what is behind this attempted isolation.
So in the future anyway I can I will get stuff into peoples systems, try to make it that they cannot resist to try it. Even if that involves loss leaders and exceptional bargains, as I know once it is there it will stick, and I will make my living from the upgrades.
It will be targeted as I see different products being promoted at intervals, and hopefully lots of trade ins to give bargains as well. If I target a product range, like the one on the 20th for interconnect cables, I can buy components at a better rate, and make production runs instead of build to order which is always faster and more cost effective, so it will be this extra profit margin that will be passed back to you as discount.
Obviously I cannot predict when we will do this on which products, so some may feel cut out of the bargain if they buy normally. Just have a moan at me, all situations are different, and time since sale will come into it, BUT If I feel you have unfairly missed out on a bargain I will compensate.