Cable vs Bluetooth

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Latteman
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Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Latteman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:10 pm

Hi, I have my digital sources off to one side of the room and run a 5meter phono cable to the p50.
I’m considering purchasing a Bluetooth sender/receiver kit to banish the cable and would like your thoughts on Bluetooth connection and recommendations of equipment- in all honesty I’m only considering a change as the cable bulge under the rug is unsightly lol
Analogue Source-ARB Turntable & 10” dual pivot arm, Dynavector 10x5, Nva Phono 1 / Schiit Mani
Digital Sources- Sony CDP770 & Apple Box3 to Beresford TC7510, iPhone 4s to music only WiFi
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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by CN211276 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:18 pm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arcam-MINIBLIN ... 3I97UDKN6D

This is quite good. It is the only input on my second system.
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Arcam Miniblink Bluetooth DAC, Marantz pm 5004, Wharfdale Diamond 121, NVA LS2.

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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Latteman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:19 pm

Was looking at that in richer sounds today
Analogue Source-ARB Turntable & 10” dual pivot arm, Dynavector 10x5, Nva Phono 1 / Schiit Mani
Digital Sources- Sony CDP770 & Apple Box3 to Beresford TC7510, iPhone 4s to music only WiFi
Amplification-NVA P50 & 2x A20
Speakers-Diy Cubes; Mid/bass- LS5; Tweeter- Ls1
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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:03 pm

No experience, I only trust cables.

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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Fretless » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:36 pm

Bluetooth gives me headaches and tinnitus.
Main: NVA: P50sa - SSP - A40 - LS6 - Cube3
Digits: RPi 2B/Allo DigiOne/Volumio/Tomanek ULPS/AQ Jitterbug
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DAC: Cambridge DacMagic Plus + Sbooster LPSU
Headphones (2): AQ NightOwl & MF XCanV3
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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Daniel Quinn » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pm

I can't possibly see how it can equal cable.
Even a stroke didn't result in me liking AOS

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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by CN211276 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 pm

It does not equal cable but sounds ok, only use it in the second bedroom system.
I set a course just east of Lyra
And northwest of Pegasus
Flew into the light of Deneb
Sailed across the Milky Way

NVA BMU, Sonore microRendu/McRU PS, AQ J-bug, Wirewold Ultraviolet, Chord Qutest, NVA P90SA, NVA A80sMk2, NVA Cube 1s, NVA TSCS, NVA TIS mk2. Rega Planar 3, Denon DL-110, NVA Phono 1, NVA SSP Mk2, Grado SR 325e, headphones, Chord Mojo.

Second system
Arcam Miniblink Bluetooth DAC, Marantz pm 5004, Wharfdale Diamond 121, NVA LS2.

Out and about
Oppo PM3, Audioquest Dragonfly Red.

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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Pianist~Envy » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:24 pm

Spotify = fine. 16bit and up, noticeably lower quality whatever the equipment.
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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Fretless » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:54 pm

Spotify is (at best) a 320 Mbps Ogg Vorbis compressed data stream. An average FLAC stream is double that. All wireless signals will be subject to jitter caused by transmitting and receiving devices - and dropouts from surrounding EM/radio interference.

Stick to cables if you want quality. The only wireless device I use is a Sonos in the kitchen which is just fine for background and washing-up music.
Main: NVA: P50sa - SSP - A40 - LS6 - Cube3
Digits: RPi 2B/Allo DigiOne/Volumio/Tomanek ULPS/AQ Jitterbug
DAC: Metrum Acoustics Musette CD Transport: Cambridge CXC
Headphones (1): AQ NightHawk & Schiit Magni 3
DAC: Cambridge DacMagic Plus + Sbooster LPSU
Headphones (2): AQ NightOwl & MF XCanV3
DAC: Cambridge DacMagic 100 + Sbooster LPSU
Desktop: CD: Arcam CD62T Amp: Kenwood KA-660D
DAC: MF M1DAC Speakers: Mission 760 (Doc-Mods)

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Re: Cable vs Bluetooth

Unread post by Latteman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:08 pm

Fretless wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:54 pm


Stick to cables if you want quality. The only wireless device I use is a Sonos in the kitchen which is just fine for background and washing-up music.
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Analogue Source-ARB Turntable & 10” dual pivot arm, Dynavector 10x5, Nva Phono 1 / Schiit Mani
Digital Sources- Sony CDP770 & Apple Box3 to Beresford TC7510, iPhone 4s to music only WiFi
Amplification-NVA P50 & 2x A20
Speakers-Diy Cubes; Mid/bass- LS5; Tweeter- Ls1
SSC throughout

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