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What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:12 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
As the question says.

I get max opportunity to swop around but only NVA apart from sources of course. I find the question odd and variable. For example recently I have been running A100s with Soundcords because I needed long leads, sounded very good, could not complain was not looking to change anything. Then I was running an A30 on Soundcord, and thought Hmmm! put SSP on and wow! so there are odd thing going on with this synergy thing. The starter system really comes to life, even though really good to start with, with the better cable.

Any thoughts from your own experience.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:17 am
by BillyBones
Presumably the SSP is between the pre and A30? What about connecting your source to the pre,would you say a step up in cable is beneficial too?

I'm a A20/P20 starter system user who's moving up to an A30.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:49 am
by CN211276
In an NVA system I don't think the importance of cables can be underestimated. When I connected TIS to my pre amp and monoblocks there was a distinct improvement. But the improvement was far greater when TIS replaced the SSP connecting the DAC to pre amp. For the full benefit i believe that interconnecter upgrades need to go all the way from source to power amp. I received a similar jump in SQ when replacing LS6 with TSCS. I have found that upgrading cables has had more benefit than upgrading my pre amp (which was significant), but at greater cost. LS6 was the first NVA kit I bought apart from the BMU. It makes quite a difference in systems which are not NVA as evidenced by the recent bake off the Doc attended.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:03 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
At the bake off the Ushers were hard, in yer face and metallic, I could not listen to music, all I could listen to was the speaker and wince, so I went in the garden sighing to myself. Somewhere behind that bloody noise was music trying to get out. I then spent an hour or two dropping hints that I would like to change the speaker cable to LS6. In the end it happened and the difference was enormous, some people I think didn't get it, those who want a home PA system, anyway the music suddenly appeared from behind the noise pretending to be music, the image dropped back instead of poking my eyes out, I could now hear the amp was a good'un, and the TT was nice if a bit warbly. It was that much change.

If it had been you lot at the Bake-off you would have all laughed, but it seems I was still unknown territory so my opinions even though musically obvious were still to find excuses not to believe. All praise for Lurch though (the Bake-off host) he sat and listened and could hear what was happening, but still the "well cables make no difference they are foo" was the brainwash that had to be broken through. Some heard it some refused to due to brain blockage.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:18 am
by savvypaul
Since I heard a couple of old DD tables - Garrard and Lenco...

...it could be my WTL Versalex turntable. The WTL is a very, very good deck but there is something about the 'boogie' from those DDs.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:32 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Garrard and Lenco are not DD they are rim drives, or sometime called idler wheel drives.

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:32 am
by savvypaul
Yes, of course...ta

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:33 pm
by Latteman
I’ll play but feel free to chip in-
I think my weakest part is speakers;
I have a pair of Royd Minstrels & a pair of linn helix. Royds are light tight & fast- nice music
Linns have presence- scale and authority; slight boom on bass, annoying at times but can rock.
These are fed mainly vinyl via Funk Firm Vector, origin live Onyx, dynavector 10x5, schillt mani ssc to A20, sc to p20 & Ls1
I like both speakers but would love a combination of them hence they are my weakness at the moment ?!

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:15 pm
by karatestu
Weakest part is currently cables between potential divider and power amps. Currently using some snaic cables and chord company speaker cable (yes I know). Just bought a set of TIS so that will be the two nva based mono bloc amps sorted. Plan is to get some more TIS eventually for the four nva based amps I am yet to build. (coming soon :grin: )

Get those built I will hopefully be cooking on gas with my 3 way isobaric semi Omni's having six nva based mono blocs. Will need another set of LS6 then
:roll:

Re: What part of your system is weakest.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:57 pm
by Lurcher300b
Weakest part is currently cables between potential divider and power amps
Why not fit the potential divider into the amplifier?