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Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:45 pm
by slinger
He's been released without charge and will face no further charges according to BBC text.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:48 pm
by kimangelis
That's good. However, the responses and posts from some of our members were; to my mind; appalling. Not to be forgotten.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:50 pm
by CN211276
slinger wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:45 pm He's been released without charge and will face no further charges according to BBC text.
Just saw the report on Sky News. :clap:

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:43 pm
by George Hincapie
slinger wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:45 pm He's been released without charge and will face no further charges according to BBC text.
Common sense prevails.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:44 pm
by George Hincapie
kimangelis wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:48 pm That's good. However, the responses and posts from some of our members were; to my mind; appalling. Not to be forgotten.
Oh really? I haven't read anything of the kind. Who and what do you disagree with?

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:18 pm
by joe
kimangelis wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:48 pm That's good. However, the responses and posts from some of our members were; to my mind; appalling. Not to be forgotten.
We will hunt them down and kill them!

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:28 am
by ArseHats
Good to see freedom of speech being excercised on a forum in a democratic country. Including the voicing of opinions on current laws, and on how laws might be improved.
Also good to see the rule of law (as actually currently established) being maintained by law enforcers in a civilised country.
I’m no lawyer, but I think the law talks about proportionate and reasonable self defence (precisely so it can be applied to a “being aggressively threatened by an intruder with a screwdriver” type of situation), but doesn’t say anything about permission to kill because someone’s broken into your house or because your adrenalin levels are high or because in future someone might empathise with you. (All of those may well be mitigating factors in sentencing in the event of guilt I suppose.)
Personally I think our laws seem pretty good on this tricky area (as evidenced by the way this particular case has planned out), and that effective freedom of speech, democracy and the rule of law are some of humanity’s greatest inventions.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:27 am
by Daniel Quinn
It is one thing hoping that due process will take its course and another completely wishing he was free regardless of circumstance.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:39 am
by ArseHats
Daniel Quinn wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:27 am It is one thing hoping that due process will take its course and another completely wishing he was free regardless of circumstance.
Yup.

Re: Defending your home.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:42 am
by kimangelis
Mr. Hincapie.

I'm bowing out of this one and probably all others. If you can't see why nor understand what I've written, only ad hominem prevents me telling you what I really feel.

Over and out.