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Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:42 am
by Classicrock
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:25 am
I get irritated by patronising comments like "it wasn't disgraced". But that is just me, people still judge with their eyes and with their wallets. I did it before in the early 90's with another, UK this time, DAC bargain, reworking it and repowering it and recasing it and calling it the DACon, based on the little QED Digit DAC - WITH THEIR PERMISSION!!
It caused me lots of strife and I even had to sue Hi-fi Choice for accusing me of fraud in a review. I got about £30k out of them. I have obviously thought about doing the same with this one, but I have enough work, I may make one for me to see how much better I can make it. BUT the basic unit is sooooo good and suuuuch astonishing value I am not that motivated to do it.
How about just producing an NVA power supply version with appropriate voltage for the £4 DAC or a version for Beresford and others? Would have to be 12-15v DC for later. No effort in recasing anything required.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
So do a bake-off.
The bane of bake-offs - "but such and such wasn't there", they had the option to be there and chose not to. I am certain Stan Beresford knew about the bake off and chose to ignore it - he is in TAS's and AoS's pocket.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:56 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Classicrock wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:42 am
How about just producing an NVA power supply version with appropriate voltage for the £4 DAC or a version for Beresford and others? Would have to be 12-15v DC for later. No effort in recasing anything required.
Beresford, not on your bleedin' nelly, can you imagine the forum shit that would be thrown at me. I am happy to let the Chinese shitty cheap little DAC (as it will be called, just watch) stay as a open source project. I will help with inf to anyone who wants to do it. Steve as well as Stu if he has time.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:19 am
by Classicrock
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:56 am
Classicrock wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:42 am
How about just producing an NVA power supply version with appropriate voltage for the £4 DAC or a version for Beresford and others? Would have to be 12-15v DC for later. No effort in recasing anything required.
Beresford, not on your bleedin' nelly, can you imagine the forum shit that would be thrown at me. I am happy to let the Chinese shitty cheap little DAC (as it will be called, just watch) stay as a open source project. I will help with inf to anyone who wants to do it. Steve as well as Stu if he has time.
All you need to do is sell it as a 12v or 15v Dc power supply. Stan Beresford is doing his own - will see what he charges. Not noted as a slurper. Loads of Dacs and phono stages out there that would benefit from a 12v linear supply. Most of the current offerings are £250 + because they are sold through people like MCRU.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:20 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
NO!
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:34 am
by Toontrev
On the point of VFM for a RPi3+Allo Boss, I paid 133 Euro which includes the 5v P.S & delivery. The additional 5v power supply was £8.99, Volumio was a 99 pence download.
As Paul makes clear in the review, the RPi is also a streamer, the other dacs were fed with a Sonore MicroRendu streamer with LPS. Paul can confirm the cost but it looks very much like the one on the Audiostore website at £820.
It does appear to be a low cost entry into the streaming world of digital provided you have a wifi router.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:59 pm
by Andy-831
I can't really add much to what has already been said by the other three lads and my conclusion largely mirrors theirs, however disregarding costs completely, I might just have the Allo dac ahead of the doc dac by a nose simply for its boogie factor, I loved it. Anybody want to buy a Fiio Taishan or a Teac Dac
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:58 pm
by Fretless
You'll still need a DAC to run your CXC through (Doc-Dac ??).
If you flog the DAC's then you could run a Pi + Allo DigiOne AND the CXC through a Doc-Dac (you would have to do the CXC on optical, though).
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:07 pm
by Andy-831
Not a problem Fretless I have a doc dac but need to buy a linear Psu for it and I also have a Cambridge Dac magic too. But thanks for the comments.
Re: DAC Bake-Off - Durham - March 31st
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:47 pm
by savvypaul
Toontrev wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:34 am
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As Paul makes clear in the review, the RPi is also a streamer, the other dacs were fed with a Sonore MicroRendu streamer with LPS. Paul can confirm the cost but it looks very much like the one on the Audiostore website at £820.
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That's the one...