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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:26 am

I.E. Society was fucked by delusional people = the British, it is our disease in many things inc hi-fi.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by savvypaul » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:29 am

Is brexit a symptom of such delusion, also?
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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:45 am

Probably. Partly. More to do with being an Island race off a large continent. Like Japan, island people tend to be eccentric with an odd attitudes to neighbours.

There has always been an enemy "over there", be it Napoleon, Hitler or Jean Claude Wanker / Brussels.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Classicrock » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:43 am

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:58 am
They can do, that is what both Japan and Germany did after the war. They built from nothing, inward focus, most pulling together.

The stupid feckin British think they are world champions at everything, ego based bullshit "we won the war" the world owes us a living. Us - Workers unite "it is our turn now, lets go and kick the rich bastards".
And when we get world champions a bunch of stupid politicians try to destroy them aka Bradley Wiggins and Mo Farah. Self destruct stupidity among politicians and fawning to certain factions such as press or unions depending on which party.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Daniel Quinn » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:48 am

You will find plenty of people calling Wiggins a cheat.
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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Lindsayt » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:01 pm

In order to win their events Wiggins and Farah had to engage in blood / chemical enhancement. Same as Bolt in the 100 metres.

I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing. It's just the way things are.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by savvypaul » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:52 am

So, following Theresa May's and Michel Barnier's speeches, I'm a little confused as to what Brexit is for...

We will 'diverge' from EU regulation but voluntarily 'align' with EU regulation...
We will have control of our own fishing waters but enter into reciprocal agreements (that are much the same as now)...
We will have tariff free trade but not completely friction-less...(a small worsening of what we have now)
We hope that the City of London will not take too much of a hit...(likely a slight worsening from what we enjoy now)
We will have control of our own borders but will still need migrant labour at around the same level...(and no system yet in place to manage it)
We will continue to pay £billions per year to the EU for access and agencies, but not have a say in new treaties / policy / regulation...

Of course, these are only opening gambits, but, if I had voted for Brexit I would be asking myself...'what has really changed?'

What do you chaps who did vote for Brexit think?
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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Lindsayt » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:22 pm

The Bropera (Brexit Soap Opera) continues...

Something of substance might happen in the next 3 months...

Parkinson's Law applies, with the time taken to sort Brexit out filling up the time available to do it.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:32 pm

Fun ain't it.

I am hoping this makes the Parliament change and become more democratic and not just party robots. Members need to do the job, the executive has failed. Have a series of votes on alternatives and see if any of them get a majority, if that fails then it has to be a second referendum.

I really like the fact that Tory MPs are becoming more individual, it needs the Labour MPs to do the same and release the shackles of the Unions and the desire for slurping power. A more open and less party controlled Westminster would be a very good thing. I am hopeful changes are afoot, especially proportional representation, as that creates the need for consensus instead of a new dictatorship every four years.

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Re: Brexit

Unread post by CN211276 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:42 am

This takes me back to my O Level in British Constitution and the supremacy of Parliament. This situation was theorised and has now come about. The executive simply cannot do what it likes without the consent of the legislature. The EU will not agree to any other deal so it is a case of stay in or out with no deal. A no deal will not get through Parliament, by what ever means, probably non approval of the Finance Bill, which means we will remain. A second referendum will rubber stamp this.
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