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Can we please agree to disagree. Both are emotional responses. Kim leans towards humanist and humanitarian, others here are expressing their anger and frustration with individuals who think they can do what they like and take what they like. It is an old argument. People are just expressing opinion and getting *it* off their chest, treat it as such. We should be available here to all opinions IMO even if not politically correct, as long as what is said is within the law.

The law decides, we decide who makes the law.

zebbo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:07 am

+1

Emotional responses are honest and we should seek to understand what drives them, both in ourselves and others. We have the ability to recognise our emotions, the intelligence to understand their consequences and the power to modify our thoughts and behaviours, should we see a benefit in doing so.

The law is not an emotional response, thankfully.

savvypaul wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:53 am The law is not an emotional response, thankfully.

+1

The responses, either way, are human and I'm very sure that if any of us found someone in our house, our child's bedroom maybe, we would do WHATEVER it took to prevent harm to our loved ones and I very much doubt that any rational thought would come into it. It's a simple human response.

zebbo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:02 pm The responses, either way, are human and I'm very sure that if any of us found someone in our house, our child's bedroom maybe, we would do WHATEVER it took to prevent harm to our loved ones and I very much doubt that any rational thought would come into it. It's a simple human response.

What you describe is self-defence 'in the moment'. That is allowed in law, which is rational.

kimangelis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:42 am Mr. Hincapie.

I'm bowing out of this one and probably all others. If you can't see why nor understand what I've written, only ad hominem prevents me telling you what I really feel.

Over and out.

Aah, you were talking about me. That's OK. I don't make any apologies for my views, but I am not an uncaring beast. I apologise if I have made you feel uncomfortable, that wasn't my intention.

Most of you know I'm ex-Army and deployed on a number of active tours; Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan immediately after 9/11. I just don't have the same emotional response to death or causing death that normal people would have; it was just part of the job for a while.

I guess I just look at the World differently; a lot of things are very black and white and this is one of them.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about more than 1 member. Regrettably even right wingers like audio, it would be so much easier if it was restricted to left wingers

You mean wishy washy pacifists and missionary types. Brits knew what they were doing with these woggy woggy types in Victorian times, send in the missionaries and if that didn't work send in the army, and if that didn't work find two tribes who hated each other and manipulate them into conflict so we ruled the place and ripped them off and they were too busy fighting each other to notice. Clever people those Victorians.

Then the same logic was provided and the same arguments for protecting the Empire. A mans home is his Empire (castle).

The above is me imitating a Victorian politician, just to show how time change. In 100 years we will probably be inviting burglers in for a cup of tea, as it will be not politically correct to tell them off or be cross with them.