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Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:03 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
:( :oops: sad, we want our daily fix of WOW!! Zoweeeee!! etc

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:59 pm
by istari_knight
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote::( :oops: sad, we want our daily fix of WOW!! Zoweeeee!! etc
:grin:

No mods today but your comment did inspire me to unbolt one of the bass drivers & take a peek... Well bugger me sideways with a pointy stick, there is no wadding :o Either Jimmy Hughes has been at them before me or ?

Interesting crossover inductors too, they use EI cores of the style you'd normally see used for a power transformer - Not seen them in a crossover before :think:

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:24 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
What are the cabinets made form and how thick are they.

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:38 pm
by istari_knight
Damn, I should have taken a photo - Will do next time I open them up.

The large LF portion is 3/4" chipboard & the top HF section is 1/2" chipboard, they are basically two separate cabinets glued together with one horizontal cross brace just below the bass driver. There is no wadding/BAF/bitumen or anything.

Here's a brochure full of marketing BS: http://www.gromit.dk/technics/sb-5000.pdf

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:43 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
If marine ply I would say don't bother, if chipboard then steel plate will be a benefit. Even at 1.5 inches chipboard will breath (flex) this is its internal damping. Adding rigidity and weight to that will be a good thing.

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:46 pm
by istari_knight
Then that will be my first port of call :guiness; The bass whilst good can get a little "fruity", I suspect this is due to the cabinets.

Need to try & find a local source this time as eBay is a rip off.

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:27 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Fruity bass is normally a port doing it. The fact that there is no wadding means the guy who designed them used his ears, and said it doesn't need any. Just from not following convention means he has my respect, so there is a good chance these are under the radar gems.

Any steel stock holder scrap bin is the first place to look.

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:01 pm
by istari_knight
Very good point, they are front ported - Not actual tubes but small holes in the baffle. You may lose that respect once you see the number of crossover components :grin:

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[Not my photo's - Found them online] 3rd order... The inductors looks pretty cool anyway ;)

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:04 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Is that for two drivers ?

Are those transformers or robots in disguise ?

Re: JPW ML710

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:21 pm
by istari_knight
Daniel Quinn wrote:Is that for two drivers ?
Yeah, according to the brochure the bass drivers are operating up to 4KHz & the tweeters down to 350Hz which is unusual in itself... They do sound like good "full range" speakers can do, driver integration is seamless.