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Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:35 am
by CN211276
BilliumB wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:25 am Would Cubetts, or something higher up in the range, be the perfect speakers to use on a kitchen worktop for a simple kitchen system?

Or, given that the worktop will be about 900mm high, would I need to add a shelf for them higher up on the wall? Need to work best for listening to the radio when standing or sitting on a stool in the room.

Thanks, cheers. Bill
Cubettes work very well for me on a cupboard in the bedroom.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:37 am
by 2011stockdg
BilliumB wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:25 am Would Cubetts, or something higher up in the range, be the perfect speakers to use on a kitchen worktop for a simple kitchen system?

Or, given that the worktop will be about 900mm high, would I need to add a shelf for them higher up on the wall? Need to work best for listening to the radio when standing or sitting on a stool in the room.

Thanks, cheers. Bill
They should work very well. The sound tends float I find with them so it's not as critical regards where you are in relation to the speakers.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:02 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
BilliumB wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:25 am Would Cubetts, or something higher up in the range, be the perfect speakers to use on a kitchen worktop for a simple kitchen system?

Or, given that the worktop will be about 900mm high, would I need to add a shelf for them higher up on the wall? Need to work best for listening to the radio when standing or sitting on a stool in the room.

Thanks, cheers. Bill
The back wall is the critical thing, I have a customer only using them at about 18 inches up and because of the top driver the image is on the wall above them. Toe in and the wall disappears and you have depth.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:31 am
by Fretless
My old MDF Cube3 (roughly the same as Cubette) speakers are mounted as close to the back wall as possible without touching. Toed-in about 30deg and about 1.70m apart.

Sounding very fine with excellent, deep bass.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:52 pm
by Chunk McDaniel
The cubes take a bit of getting used to coming from point and squirts. Everything you thought you knew about speaker placement goes out the window. Mine are 2.5m apart and drastically toed in. The back corner is 20mm from the wall and the toe in is about 45°. I sit about 2.5 m from the speakers. This means that if you draw a line from the centre of the speakers they cross over roughly half way between the distance to the listening position.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:06 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
That will give massive image depth, flat on gives you Cinemascope image.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:25 pm
by Chunk McDaniel
Yep the image and depth are incredible. Sounds seem to just appear from nowhere the speakers just disappear. If you were blindfolded you could not pinpoint the speaker position . It's magical. On a good recording you would swear the vocalist was in the room.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:40 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
There is great fun to be had with the Cube design concept. The two I am working on are for even bigger image and extended bass, which because of the design is basically infinite - organ notes to shake the house. It started with me wanting to use a 12 incher as it was in my doc mods portfolio, so the Big Bastard Cube was born (BBCube) they shocked me how good they were at extending both these parameters while retaining all the other assets of the design, one pair sold and traded for Cube1 and he is well happy.

The next step is to take the 12 incher into isobaric mode with two BBCubes acoustically coupled and then three of them as with the old Cubix Pro. Obviously far from cheap design. But I think I will only do this now with the 12 incher because it is so much better than the 8 incher (the likes of JBL knew *exactly* what they were talking about and doing). The bass *should* be astonishing. Hopefully I can show these at a show latter in the year. Not doing the NW one, not good value for silly small bedrooms, but the National is a lot better and I am booking a bigger room for them.

So amps are on back cooking plate but looking at changing to 15amp from 10amp Darlingtons in the bigger amps, proto-ing that ATM. This year will be speaker year. May look at DACs again after that as I am *extremely* unhappy with the quality and reliability of the new expensive programmable ones, I don't want more fried amps from them, answer do it yourself. NVA principle, simplicity and massive power supplies.

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:56 pm
by Chunk McDaniel
Sounds awesome Doc. I think DAC's are a good project for NVA. There are a lot of companies at the moment selling DAC.s at highly inflated prices for no musical benefits. Would be great to see NVA dramatically change that .

Re: Understanding cubetts

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:06 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Wont be cheap, already recommend a really cheap Chinese one, my famous £5 DAC which with decent Linear PSU already shows up most expensive ones. This will be that simple DAC circuit (but parallel boards which I have tried and it really works) with a Big Bastard PSU (BBPSU), so think over £1000 but not much over.