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I couldn’t listen to them and hoped my cabinet, cross over and hard wire mods would spring them in to life .
So last nite , I was listening to Mellanchamp’s Scarecrow album in particular [“between a laugh and tear “ , which ive adopted as a mantra for life ] and it wasn’t happening ,so after messing with the position again my thoughts turned to loudspeaker cable in the cupboard which I had bought months ago as it was a bargain [LS1] , for use when I eventually get round to buying some NVA amplification . : :D
I hadn’t used it before , because whilst I am a subjectivist , I am somewhat of a cable sceptic –copper is copper isn’t it ? However unlike the law were I’ve no need to be a sceptic because I know when and why Im right , my electronics knowledge is paltry so I retain an open mind and don’t dismiss out of hand . Well , I put in my system [ incorrectly bi-wired doc ] and it was a bloody revelation . It was immediately better because the soundstage and opened up and melanchamp’s voice was just more life like but as I listened all the usual inadequate descriptions [like lifting a veil , cleaner window , more musical, etc etc ] became relevant .
All of the things I understood can happen to sound of your system when modified , but which I thought were over exaggerated in the context of speaker cable .
I still remain incredulous and 50% of me is convinced its all in my head . But 2 hours later I was still listening and previously I had walked out the room after 10 minutes disappointed . It was just so much more believable and listenable . Back came the vocal inflection of billy joels innocent men , the phrasing , dynamic contrast of his voice all were like I remembered . On prefab sprouts bonny , the stop/start of the instruments which carries the song along was just better and so on and so on .
The sound wasn’t perfect , at volume the speakers find it difficult to control the bass on Peter Gabriel Secret World and Genesis “The lamia” , but for the first time it convinced me I could be happy listening to hifi in this room . It may not include the wharfedales in the long run , but it will include NVA speaker cable .
But I’m still incredulous and don’t have a bloody clue how it works and that is annoying and disconcerting .
[ for context rest of system – pt anni , Tabriz zi , benz micro ace s l , Yamaha as 1000 amp, comparison speaker cable was cable talk 3.1 and audioquest flx/slip ]
soundstage is still not to my liking , but this is probably a combination of the room size and the speakers , However , it is now evident just what an improvement the maxon motor is over the origin live one . If anybody needs a dc motor you should check it out [ model no 226774] *
I am now reluctant to undertake the speaker mods in case or should that be when I mess it up , such as been the change, but who dares wins . :D
* you can buy this direct from thier website , prices are in swiss francs remember , but it is considerably cheaper than those firms who are selling maxon dc motors in disguise .
Just don't chop anything else off.
1st question - my last speakers had 4 drivers per box and I hard wired the woofers direct to the amp .The wharfedales have 2 . now i can hadwire the woofers direct to amp if i bi-wire [ incorrectly ] if I parrallell wire but if i series wire [ preference ] with no crossover on mid range , were do i stick the capacitor and resistor in the circuit for it to only act on the tweeter .
You will have something as musical as a small Royd.
Series cap to the tweeter I would use 3.3mfd.
this involved -
 Cutting my LS1 in to four lenths of 2.5m each .[it was a 5m stereo pair ]
 removing the crossover, internal connectors and internal wiring .
 soldering the LS1 direct to the woofer in one continous piece from amp to speaker terminal .
 Soldering the negative direct LS1 direct to negative tweeter terminal
 soldering the cheap bi-polar capacitor and a wire wound resistor [removed from the crossover ] to the postivie terminal and then soldering the positive ls 1 to the capacitor . ie ls1 soldered to capacitor , capacitor soldered to resistor and resistor soldered to tweeter terminal.
Well , the results were excellant . Only played 1 record - bill bragg workers playtime side a & b .but everything was so much more real , immediate and musical and less coloured and naturally dynamic
Then it was time to watch football with the kids . the sound of the tv was coming through the speakers . just before 1/2 time the wife came in to complain about somebody banging , she didint believe it was the sound of the goal keeper kicking the post coming from the speakers , until he did it again .
So I am confused again . What am I missing , were are the problems I am not hearing , why does anybody fit a crossover at all?