The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here?
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
Been thinking about this. Now the subject seems to have moved to debating. The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here (while it sounds like a good idea) is that it is easy to subvert. By answering the question but in a deliberately provocative and arsy fashion and repeating those posts to the point of annoyance, it becomes very hard to respond to those posts without triggering the ad-hom rule. Its a cunning debating technique, that makes use of the rules but generally is not (IMHO) in the interest of the forum.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
A well-observed and valid point.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
You think it is impossible to respond without being personal?Lurcher300b wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:48 am Been thinking about this. Now the subject seems to have moved to debating. The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here (while it sounds like a good idea) is that it is easy to subvert. By answering the question but in a deliberately provocative and arsy fashion and repeating those posts to the point of annoyance, it becomes very hard to respond to those posts without triggering the ad-hom rule. Its a cunning debating technique, that makes use of the rules but generally is not (IMHO) in the interest of the forum.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
Constant repetition of points already made is irritating and a tactic used by politicians and lawyers to wear down the opposition and win an argument by default.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
No, but very difficult. Thats the point.savvypaul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:55 amYou think it is impossible to respond without being personal?Lurcher300b wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:48 am Been thinking about this. Now the subject seems to have moved to debating. The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here (while it sounds like a good idea) is that it is easy to subvert. By answering the question but in a deliberately provocative and arsy fashion and repeating those posts to the point of annoyance, it becomes very hard to respond to those posts without triggering the ad-hom rule. Its a cunning debating technique, that makes use of the rules but generally is not (IMHO) in the interest of the forum.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
Rule 5 - No continuous repeating of the same post or the same point within a post.
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The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here?
The vast majority manage it. Though, that may not be an indication of contentment.Lurcher300b wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:02 amNo, but very difficult. Thats the point.savvypaul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:55 amYou think it is impossible to respond without being personal?Lurcher300b wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:48 am Been thinking about this. Now the subject seems to have moved to debating. The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here (while it sounds like a good idea) is that it is easy to subvert. By answering the question but in a deliberately provocative and arsy fashion and repeating those posts to the point of annoyance, it becomes very hard to respond to those posts without triggering the ad-hom rule. Its a cunning debating technique, that makes use of the rules but generally is not (IMHO) in the interest of the forum.
How would you police a rule that said 'no being arsey'?
Or how would you phrase such a rule?
How would you determine what is arsey and what isn't?
I agree that some are skilful at provoking ad hom. Deliberately or otherwise.
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Re: The problem with the Ad-Hom rule on here?
Generally none of those are my problem to solve. I just pointed out that they are a result of imposing rules. Once you have rules, then there is a motivation among some to find ways of contravening them, It becomes a sport. I prefer lack of rules and allowing the dynamic of a group of people to establish itself by mutual consent.savvypaul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:10 amThe vast majority manage it. Though, that may not be an indication of contentment.
How would you police a rule that said 'no being arsey'?
Or how would you phrase such a rule?
How would you determine what is arsey and what isn't?
I agree that some are skilful at provoking ad hom. Deliberately or otherwise.
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Re: Longdog PSU with Lenco GL75
I refer you to the "its now 10:31 on monday" types posts in the parent thread.