IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Forum for admin topics, member introductions and general non-hifi chitchat.
User avatar
Lindsayt
Posts: 4213
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:06 pm
Has thanked: 1079 times
Been thanked: 692 times
Nauru

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Lindsayt »

Lurcher300b wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:41 am
Lindsayt wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:46 am So, what happens if the House of Commons doesn't pass the vote for a no deal Brexit and doesn't pass the vote for an Article 50 extension? Now that it has voted twice to reject May's proposed deal?

And if Article 50 get's extended, doesn't that just mean that there's been a huge cock-up on May's part by not working to the deadline?
Despite volting for no no deal, not voting for a extension will lead to a no deal as there is nothing else in place in law. There has clearly been a huge cock up, but May tried to force the issue by the threat of a no deal, hoping that would make her deal the best worst option. So she did meet the deadline, its just what she came up with was no good. She handed in her essay on time, but it was marked as a F.
Yeah but Mrs May and her cabinet set the timetable and the main objective wasn't to have a vote on a deal before March 29th. The objective was to have the best possible Brexit for the country set in law in advance of the 29th of March.

We should have been at the stage we're at now 6 months ago. And then we could have moved onto a No Deal vote in the Commons, followed by a 2nd referendum on the nature of Brexit in good time to make it happen.

Tabling a proposed deal was only half the job. The other half was to get it, or something else agreed in UK law. So no, I don't accept that May has met the deadline.

Hannes-Gregor
Posts: 1756
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:40 am
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 65 times
Germany

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Hannes-Gregor »

Lindsayt wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:56 pm
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:13 am It is a political chicken run, always has been since negotiations started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGtEp7zFdrc
So Brexit is a waste of a couple of classic 1950's cars? Metaphorically speaking. Sounds about right.

I also see it as a reminder that politicians, in general, are hopeless at organising or running anything. Or more to the point, a committe of 650 is far too large to make meaningful decisions and progress on something as nuanced as Brexit.
I think the problem is that most politicians, more or less, aren't the most intelligent, but the most egocentric people. You can't expect clever decisions from them when their only aim is to be recognized by the public. The number of them doesn't play any role. One could be enough to produce a lot of rubbish.

Lurcher300b
Posts: 933
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:58 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Lurcher300b »

a committe of 650 is far too large to make meaningful decisions and progress on something as nuanced as Brexit.
While some would have us believe that the entire population of the country was able to make a meaningful decision?

User avatar
CN211276
Posts: 6522
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:29 am
Location: Cardiff
Has thanked: 1401 times
Been thanked: 976 times
EUROPEAN_UNION

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by CN211276 »

It is a total shambles and has to go back to the people now they are aware of the full implications.
Main System
NVA BMU, P90SA/A80s (latest spec), Cube 1s, TIS, TISC(LS7)
Sonore OpticalRendu, Chord Mscaler & Qutest, Sbooster PSs
Network Acoustics Eno, ifi iPurifier3, AQ JB FMJ, Cisco 2940 & 2960
DH Labs ethernet, BNC & USB cables, Farnells cat 8 ethernet cable

Second System
NVA P20/ A20, Cubettes, LS3, SSP, SC
Sonore MicroRendu, Chord Mojo 2 MCRU PSs, AQ Carbon USB cable & JB FMJ

Headphones
Grado SR325e/Chord Mojo, Beyerdynamic Avetho/AQ DF Colbat

RIP Doc

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Fretless »

Perhaps the EU will be prepared to make concessions if the UK withdraws from the Article 50 procedure altogether.

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro & AudioQuest

User avatar
Classicrock
Posts: 2316
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:51 pm
Location: Bristol
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 15 times
Great Britain

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Classicrock »

CN211276 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:08 pm It is a total shambles and has to go back to the people now they are aware of the full implications.
That we didn't know that MPs are complete knob heads?
I Know What I like (In Your Wardrobe)

User avatar
Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Posts: 30758
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:26 pm
Location: Muppet Labs
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 48 times

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew »

All forms of democratic capitalism are corrupt, it is just every alternative becomes more corrupt - ergo, human beings are naturally corrupt. The problem with politics and politicians is they are constantly selling themselves and the rewards are votes, so all the corruption appears in spades as the ONLY thing that is important is to be elected and to have power, nothing else matters, and any lies or corruption is justified, it has always been like this and even worse in history. In everything (including hi-fi) the corrupt use and abuse the stoooopid.

User avatar
Lindsayt
Posts: 4213
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:06 pm
Has thanked: 1079 times
Been thanked: 692 times
Nauru

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Lindsayt »

The smallest countries tend to have the best governments.

Jammy Dodger
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Jammy Dodger »

Fretless wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:17 pm The forthcoming months are already planned.

No-deal Brexit followed immediately by Boris Johnson becoming PM and the UK proving that it is able to stand easily on its own in direct competition with the EU, USA, China and so on. And not becoming a bankrupt and isolated third-world land as some would have you believe.

The IRA have been sorted out before. No worries there. All immigrants to be forced into little rubber boats at Folkestone and pointed in the direction of France.

No problem. Everybody happy.

+1

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Fretless »

My Nostradamus moment :grin: :guiness; 8-)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro & AudioQuest

Post Reply