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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:29 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:32 pm
by Classicrock
Fretless wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:17 pm
The forthcoming months are already planned.
No-deal Brexit followed immediately by Boris Johnson becoming PM and the UK proving that it is able to stand easily on its own in direct competition with the EU, USA, China and so on. And not becoming a bankrupt and isolated third-world land as some would have you believe.
The IRA have been sorted out before. No worries there. All immigrants to be forced into little rubber boats at Folkestone and pointed in the direction of France.
No problem. Everybody happy.
And you think that would be the worst outcome? Be careful what you wish for.
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:49 pm
by Fretless
Could be the best outcome the way things are looking.
(I really should try to stay out of all Brexit discussions, my blood immediately starts to boil)
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:44 pm
by Copperblue
CN211276 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:51 pm
Very true.
Brexit is critical to the entitled UK based monied elite. They don’t want the UK to sign up to planed tougher tax evasion laws the EU is contemplating- which includes the customs union. That is partly why the “national self-harm on a grand scale” that is a no-deal Brexit is keenly supported in some quarters.
The whole thing is mugging off Britain - using latent xenophobia, economic uncertainty for white working men, ignorance of how the EU works and the main political parties being a shamble of self-interest......oh and a rose tinted view of the past, bring back the groat and work houses (never did me any ‘arm, ‘cor blimey, they don’t like it up ‘em etc )
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:50 pm
by CN211276
Copperblue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:44 pm
CN211276 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:51 pm
Very true.
Brexit is critical to the entitled UK based monied elite. They don’t want the UK to sign up to planed tougher tax evasion laws the EU is contemplating- which includes the customs union. That is partly why the “national self-harm on a grand scale” that is a no-deal Brexit is keenly supported in some quarters.
The whole thing is mugging off Britain - using latent xenophobia, economic uncertainty for white working men, ignorance of how the EU works and the main political parties being a shamble of self-interest......oh and a rose tinted view of the past, bring back the groat and work houses (never did me any ‘arm, ‘cor blimey, they don’t like it up ‘em etc )
The most vocal Tory hard Brexitiers would be hit by harder tax evasion laws.
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:46 am
by Lindsayt
So, what happens if the House of Commons doesn't pass the vote for a no deal Brexit and doesn't pass the vote for an Article 50 extension? Now that it has voted twice to reject May's proposed deal?
And if Article 50 get's extended, doesn't that just mean that there's been a huge cock-up on May's part by not working to the deadline?
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:41 am
by Lurcher300b
Lindsayt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:46 am
So, what happens if the House of Commons doesn't pass the vote for a no deal Brexit and doesn't pass the vote for an Article 50 extension? Now that it has voted twice to reject May's proposed deal?
And if Article 50 get's extended, doesn't that just mean that there's been a huge cock-up on May's part by not working to the deadline?
Despite volting for no no deal, not voting for a extension will lead to a no deal as there is nothing else in place in law. There has clearly been a huge cock up, but May tried to force the issue by the threat of a no deal, hoping that would make her deal the best worst option. So she did meet the deadline, its just what she came up with was no good. She handed in her essay on time, but it was marked as a F.
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:13 am
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
It is a political chicken run, always has been since negotiations started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGtEp7zFdrc
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:56 pm
by Lindsayt
So Brexit is a waste of a couple of classic 1950's cars? Metaphorically speaking. Sounds about right.
I also see it as a reminder that politicians, in general, are hopeless at organising or running anything. Or more to the point, a committe of 650 is far too large to make meaningful decisions and progress on something as nuanced as Brexit.
Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:02 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
My point is we are stuck with our sleeve pinned in the door handle about to go off the cliff and hoping the EU blink (jump) first.