IF there's another Brexit referendum...

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Classicrock » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:26 pm

Copperblue wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:11 pm
Classicrock wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:32 am
CN211276 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:13 am


+1
There should never have been a referendum in the first place. Cameron took a reckless gamble with the nations future because he was scared of losing votes to Ukip. Even if sense prevails and we remain, it has still been costly.
Fact is there was a referendum and the result can't be undone and has to be respected to at least a substantial degree. I think you have to draw a consistent line on who can vote and in law adults are 18 or over. Some people forget until early 70s this was 21. While there is some perception that 16 year olds are more responsible now and more clued up I doubt that is the case. Maybe more open to the untruths flying around online. Anyway leaving EU is primarily a political decision about controlling our own laws rather than economic. While some firms are in a panic those that have been geared up to trade outside the EU mostly are more relaxed about changes. There are always a group of people who are glass half empty and shout loudest. I think there is a silent majority that accept the vote and plenty companies that started preparing for exit a long way back. Businesses should be prepared for any unforeseen eventuality and this one has been pretty predictable for some time.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/10m- ... f0a080de9f

IMHO the vote was flawed, probably illegal.

There is a lot of evidence out there supporting systematic inference of a foreign government. This has also been corroborated by exposure of Russian payments to The Northern League in Italy, bank rolling their campaigns.

It’s disrespectful to patronise the youth but not unexpected. It seems that it is Brexiteers burying their heads in the sand.
FFS whatever you think of the result or how the campaign was conducted it was not illegal. Try bringing a case before the courts and find out. Don't think the result will be to your liking. I'm afraid you portray the attitude that has been exaggerated by biased journalism on part of the BBC and others. Frankly if you don't like democracy try living in Russia.

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:30 pm

Nothing is reality per usual, over optimism on one side over pessimism on the other. Reality in life for us will be a compromise that turns into a fuck-up that leads to more fuck-ups, it is the British way.

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by CN211276 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:30 pm

The biased journalism has been on the part of the tabloids.
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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Copperblue » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:04 pm

Classicrock wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:26 pm
Copperblue wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:11 pm
Classicrock wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:32 am


Fact is there was a referendum and the result can't be undone and has to be respected to at least a substantial degree. I think you have to draw a consistent line on who can vote and in law adults are 18 or over. Some people forget until early 70s this was 21. While there is some perception that 16 year olds are more responsible now and more clued up I doubt that is the case. Maybe more open to the untruths flying around online. Anyway leaving EU is primarily a political decision about controlling our own laws rather than economic. While some firms are in a panic those that have been geared up to trade outside the EU mostly are more relaxed about changes. There are always a group of people who are glass half empty and shout loudest. I think there is a silent majority that accept the vote and plenty companies that started preparing for exit a long way back. Businesses should be prepared for any unforeseen eventuality and this one has been pretty predictable for some time.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/10m- ... f0a080de9f

IMHO the vote was flawed, probably illegal.

There is a lot of evidence out there supporting systematic inference of a foreign government. This has also been corroborated by exposure of Russian payments to The Northern League in Italy, bank rolling their campaigns.

It’s disrespectful to patronise the youth but not unexpected. It seems that it is Brexiteers burying their heads in the sand.
FFS whatever you think of the result or how the campaign was conducted it was not illegal. Try bringing a case before the courts and find out. Don't think the result will be to your liking. I'm afraid you portray the attitude that has been exaggerated by biased journalism on part of the BBC and others. Frankly if you don't like democracy try living in Russia.
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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by zebbo » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:27 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Absolutely right! :clap:
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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Copperblue » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:56 pm

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by CN211276 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:51 pm

Very true.
I set a course just east of Lyra
And northwest of Pegasus
Flew into the light of Deneb
Sailed across the Milky Way

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Classicrock » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:57 pm

Nothing new then. I thought Boris was leading the proper campaign. The involvement of Banks and the other campaign drew little media attention apart from one poster that upset the PC brigade. All the focus appeared to be on that bus and linking two lines of words as in 1+1= 3. Trump would call this fake news.

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Re: IF there's another Brexit referendum...

Unread post by Fretless » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:17 pm

The forthcoming months are already planned.

No-deal Brexit followed immediately by Boris Johnson becoming PM and the UK proving that it is able to stand easily on its own in direct competition with the EU, USA, China and so on. And not becoming a bankrupt and isolated third-world land as some would have you believe.

The IRA have been sorted out before. No worries there. All immigrants to be forced into little rubber boats at Folkestone and pointed in the direction of France.

No problem. Everybody happy.
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