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A swing to the right is fairly normal on the run up to war, best buy a few tin hats perhaps.

It is I, Leclerc wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:52 pm A swing to the right is fairly normal on the run up to war, best buy a few tin hats perhaps.

Wonder if thats correlation or causality?

Lurcher300b wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:00 pm Wonder if thats correlation or causality?

I was thinking the latter

Politics has become increasingly a game of extreme opposites, as the right gets stronger so does the left, people swing out to opposite ends to oppose what they dislike, it's partisan, and pointless, aim to meet in the middle it's a much better place. Hear people out of any opinion, don't brow beat them down or expect to change their minds. Let them be wrong in their opinions, share the common ground and make it more inclusive.

Because those in power, real power, that resists generational change are just trying to divide and conquer us like they always have, by any and all means necessary.

Politics has become increasingly a game of extreme opposites, as the right gets stronger so does the left, people swing out to opposite ends to oppose what they dislike

Maybe in the US, but the Left in the UK is a weak shadow of what it was in the 70's and early 80's. The centre has moved to the right and taken peoples perception of the extremes with it.

Corbyn is considered very left wing by the UK media and public but his policies would be considered middle of the road in much of Europe...

savvypaul wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 am Corbyn is considered very left wing by the UK media and public but his policies would be considered middle of the road in much of Europe...

Certainly in Nazi Germany!

I find it fascinating that both the original Italian Fascist movement and the German Nazi party started as a form of socialism, but right socialism not left, both became dictatorships. The Nazi party meant National Socialism. For some reason the word socialism is now only associated with left. The word though just means people decide, it is social in nature. All hard left Socialisms have gone to dictatorship, either of an individual or a committee.

History always tells. The civil war here was a creation of a form of socialism that went to a dictatorship with Cromwell as well. Social government doesn't work right or left without a strong embedded principle of democracy.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:17 am I find it fascinating that both the original Italian Fascist movement and the German Nazi party started as a form of socialism,

Not sure how you can have right wing version of this:

"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production"

Not saying you cant, but what would it look like?

Classicrock wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:59 am

savvypaul wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 am Corbyn is considered very left wing by the UK media and public but his policies would be considered middle of the road in much of Europe...

Certainly in Nazi Germany!

Really, classic?

Your comment sensationalises one and trivialises the other.