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Unread post by slinger » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:45 pm

If you read the whole story, he's selling the DC blocker now because since he's moved house his mains supply has improved in quality so it no longer serves any purpose. When he had problems with DC on his mains he thought it was beneficial.
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Unread post by Dave Cawley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:48 pm

I don't buy this at all. No mains re-generator needs a mains conditioner ahead of it.

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Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:05 pm

Its not a conditioner, it is a DC blocker. If you have DC on the mains like he had until rewiring, then it makes sense. Though if you don't need it then it does make the music slightly worse IMO. He has a regenerator unit that does not block DC and it will then interfere with the regen circuit, so in this case (for once) he is right. If he had chosen a BMU instead of a regenerator then it would be a waste of time because the transformer in the BMU would block the DC as that is what they do, only AC gets to the secondary of a transformer, THOUGH it can in extremis overheat the transformer, and the DC will make the primary coil on the BMU transformer buzz.

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Unread post by Dave Cawley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:24 pm

It does condition the mains. Why would a regenerator perform better if the DC is removed, and if it does why wouldn't it be fitted as standard in a 10K unit ? Or why didn't they use better transformers ? They do use transformers right ? So no DC would feed through into the regenerator part ?

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Unread post by Daniel Quinn » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:32 pm

Slinger if you are going stick up for morons , please learn all the
Relevant facts and do not quote nonsense . Ta

Is 10k mains regenerator takes care of dc
Even a stroke didn't result in me liking AOS

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Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:40 pm

I give up DC I have told you the EXACT TRUTH of the situation, you reject it. A DC blocker is not a power conditioner, it is a different beast. If you refuse to listen to people who KNOW perhaps you need a DC blocker, just a different DC :lol:

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Re: The Audio Standard Forum.

Unread post by slinger » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Daniel Quinn wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Slinger if you are going stick up for morons , please learn all the
Relevant facts and do not quote nonsense . Ta

Is 10k mains regenerator takes care of dc
Perhaps you should take your own advice D.Q.
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Unread post by Dave Cawley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:53 pm

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:40 pm
I give up DC I have told you the EXACT TRUTH of the situation, you reject it.
This is arguing for the sake of semantics. What I said was correct, valid and to some useful. BTW I agree to differ as arguing serves no purpose on this occasion.

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Re: The Audio Standard Forum.

Unread post by Daniel Quinn » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:56 pm

He does'nt need a separate dc blocker, end off
Even a stroke didn't result in me liking AOS

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Unread post by Dave Cawley » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:04 pm

Daniel Quinn wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:56 pm
He does'nt need a separate dc blocker, end off
Agreed !
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