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Re: UK veto [continued from former forum]

Unread post by savvypaul » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:21 pm

Alfi wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:59 pm
But of course Alice has been labeled as a racist, because she talks sense.
Is she a racist?

Does she talk sense?
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Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:27 pm

Alfi wrote:
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_D_S_J_R_ wrote:
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Interesting speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IcW4eo4uM
But of course Alice is a racist because she talks sense!
I don't know if she's a racist or not. But she collaborates with racists and Nazis and is, among others,
responsible for a climate here, were more and more people allow themselves to behave in undemocratic ways (verbal and physical). The tolerance within the population for insulting and attacking foreigners (mostly those of different color to us) and political rivals has increased significantly with the rise of the AfD.

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Unread post by Alfi » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:21 pm

I was under the impression the AfD are a right wing party, but the Nazis were/are socialists, as in far left?

Wasn't she democratically voted into office by the German electorate?

Perhaps I am wrong, but shouldn't one always treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself?

Then we have to question why this verbal abuse/attacking of foreigners is taking place?
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Unread post by savvypaul » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Alfi wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:21 pm
I was under the impression the AfD are a right wing party, but the Nazis were/are socialists, as in far left?

Wasn't she democratically voted into office by the German electorate?

Perhaps I am wrong, but shouldn't one always treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself?

Then we have to question why this verbal abuse/attacking of foreigners is taking place?
Does she discriminate on grounds of race / nationality, or not?
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Re: UK veto [continued from former forum]

Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:22 pm

Alfi wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:21 pm
I was under the impression the AfD are a right wing party, but the Nazis were/are socialists, as in far left?

Wasn't she democratically voted into office by the German electorate?

Perhaps I am wrong, but shouldn't one always treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself?

Then we have to question why this verbal abuse/attacking of foreigners is taking place?
The Nazis are only social to people belonging to their 'race'. And a sign for being left or a socialist is solidarity with all people, so internationalism. And from that Nazis are really far away. If you look from Dresden on the countryside towards the Czech border, the NPD (real Nazis) during the last years had between 20 and 30 % of the votes in the elections. Now their success is over but the AfD gets about 40%. So they got all the votes from the former Nazi voters and some more from former conservative voters. The people don't see the lack of social promises in the AFD's program, but like their discriminating statements regarding minorities.

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Unread post by joe » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:03 pm

Fretless wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:59 pm

Theresa May was respected by the rest of the EU - Boris is seen as the equivalent of Trump: an unpredictable, unreliable lying idiot who doesn't think before he makes empty promises he can't keep.

Per capita, the Netherlands pays far more than the UK.

Edit: I will try to ignore this thread from now on - B****t bollocks is the one subject that really gets my goat.
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Well, quite. I think Alfi's been watching too many David Icke videos.

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Unread post by slinger » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:29 pm

Hitler used the tag "socialist" as in National Socialists (Nationalsozialismus, or Nazi) to make the party sound more appealing to more people and it was an attempt to redesign and reshape socialism into nationalism. In fact, they were far-right fascists all along. Yes, the Nazis were conmen and liars. Who'd have thunk it?
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Unread post by CN211276 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:40 pm

Fretless wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:59 pm
Alfi wrote:
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Classicrock wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:45 am
Ironic. If Cameron had got what he asked the result would have been different. I voted out because he in effect got nothing and was laughed at by the EU. Treating the UK as some minor state they can push around just won't do. I'm sure that is a majority opinion in the country.
And so was May laughed at but worse still Britain was laughed at because of her and her retainer led team's utter ineffectiveness as a negotiators!

Aren't we the 2nd largest net contributor? No wonder they don't want us to leave!
Theresa May was respected by the rest of the EU - Boris is seen as the equivalent of Trump: an unpredictable, unreliable lying idiot who doesn't think before he makes empty promises he can't keep.

Per capita, the Netherlands pays far more than the UK.

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Buffoon Boris is nothing more than an opportunist career politician who does not give a monkeys about the wellbeing of the country. He has jumped on a misguided populist bandwaggon, fuelled by the tabloids, to further his personal agenda. He is fortunate in that the opposition is lead by a lame duck unelectable fossil.
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Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:21 pm

savvypaul wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:27 pm
Alfi wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:21 pm
I was under the impression the AfD are a right wing party, but the Nazis were/are socialists, as in far left?

Wasn't she democratically voted into office by the German electorate?

Perhaps I am wrong, but shouldn't one always treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself?

Then we have to question why this verbal abuse/attacking of foreigners is taking place?
Does she discriminate on grounds of race / nationality, or not?
An Email occurred where she wrote that sentence (here's the German version. My translation follows. So in case you like to proof what I wrote, translate by yourselves). "Der Grund, warum wir von Völkern wie Arabern, Sinti und Roma etc. ueberschwemmt werden, ist die systematische Zerstörung der bürgerlichen Gesellschaft als mögliches Gegengewicht von Verfassungsfeinden, von denen wir regiert werden." 'The reason why we are overrun by culture strange people, is the systematic destruction of the civil society as a possibly counterweight by enemies of our constitution by whom we are reigned.'
Keep in mind that she's seen as a member of the moderate wing of her party.
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Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:24 pm

After a Syrian has murdered someone in the streets of Stuttgart with a sword, she wanted all Syrian to leave Germany. That's rasist's behavior when you don't judge the individual but the whole people.

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