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Re: AoS

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:31 pm

He has a tech admin who does most of the work like we have Terry, it is Beechwoods, it is he who has set up this Marco's slurp scam.

https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthr ... ost1032554 (you will have to copy and paste)

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Unread post by savvypaul » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:39 pm

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Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:23 pm
Thanks Savy.
Hence his reluctance to discuss costs. He does mention paying for support to keep the thing going. I wonder if someone is ripping him off? Him being technically ignorant. :idea:
Sad the child like unquestioning trust his regular mugs show
It's not really a case of being ripped off...but of paying for things / spec that you don't really need. It's a very common mistake.
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Re: AoS

Unread post by savvypaul » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:42 pm

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:31 pm
He has a tech admin who does most of the work like we have Terry, it is Beechwoods, it is he who has set up this Marco's slurp scam.

https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthr ... ost1032554 (you will have to copy and paste)
Marco states that he is paying for dedicated support, so we have to assume that Beechwoods' technical input is minimal. Going by the design of the supporter badge and the site graphics, that might not be a bad thing!
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Re: AoS

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:52 pm

He is listed as admin so he is doing Terry's function. Dedicated support by Marco means that Beechwood is doing it. Perhaps he pays him now to do it, but he does it.

He has done it since Marco bullied and threatened his ex partners off.

Originally AoS was Steve Toy - admin and forum key holder, Filterlab - tech admin, Marco - smut and ego admin. When Marco *acquired* the forum for himself Beechwood became tech admin.

BTW is Steve Toy still active on PFM.

He has a membership here with 222 posts https://www.hifisubjectivist.org/member ... le&u=27727 but hasn't used it for a long time.

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Unread post by alfer » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:23 pm

He reappeared for a while talking MDAC but that dried up. Probably for the best.

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Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:35 pm

I wish he would post here again, he was the more sensible of the pair of them. Filterlab I never had contact with.

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Re: AoS

Unread post by savvypaul » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:26 pm

AOS is currently using Vbulletin 4. I did a bit of reading up about it. This article may explain some of the issues / downtime that AOS have had:
https://www.avforums.com/threads/vbulle ... n.1855705/

Selected 'highlights':

So vBulletin 4 was released at the end of 2009 and in my opinion was terrible for vBulletin users. It had many bugs and was not an easy upgrade (the vBulletin forum itself was down for 28 hours while it upgraded). It had well publicised security problems and a PR disaster of a new pricing structure. The admin community was not happy and many consider that we had to wait for over two years for a stable version of vB4 in the form of vBulletin 4.2. Of all the major versions of vB, 4.2.x is the one most commonly used (by a small margin over 3.8.x).

In a nutshell the management driving the development of vBulletin simply weren't up to the job. What they needed to do was replace the original team with quality coders and a lead developer with the experience and autonomy to drive vBulletin in the right direction.

Furthermore, they evidently still aren't up to the job. The release of vBulletin 5 Connect in September 2012 was even more nightmarish than the release of vBulletin 4. It was available to purchase in beta and only exited beta the following February. Coders have examined vB5 Connect and have heavily criticised it.

The owner of Digital Point, Shawn Hogan comments
"Definitely will never upgrade. Too slow, too many queries to render a page (100+), too much bloat (CSS files about 450KB, etc.)".

"vBulletin after being taken over by Internet Brands became a total failure, looking at vBulletin 5 should explain what I mean."
"The current condition of vBulletin is dire and we don't know when Internet Brands will pull the plug on vBulletin if they stop generating positive revenue."
(Source)

"you must see the writing on the wall.
a> VBulletin 4 is no longer developed. It's a matter of time before it becomes too obsolete.
b> VBulletin 5 is a failed software. The current market share of VB5 is about half a percent.
Hence it is only a matter of time before VBulletin completely dies or at least becomes too insignificant to consider any investment by a third party wishing to start a product around VBulletin."
(Source)

The conclusion - vBulletin is already dead
For vBulletin forum owners like me, Internet Brands should undoubtedly be seen as the villain of this story. IB bought, and have ruined the forum software that we have based our forum, our passion, our business on. By making vBulletin untenable, IB have forced us to invest a significant sum of money migrating AVForums away from vBulletin to different forum software.
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Re: AoS

Unread post by slinger » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:07 pm

Just a passing thought, and it may already have been discussed and I missed it, but would the "donations" be declarable income, and would the board technically have to be registered as a business now if it isn't already?
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Re: AoS

Unread post by savvypaul » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:00 pm

slinger wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:07 pm
Just a passing thought, and it may already have been discussed and I missed it, but would the "donations" be declarable income, and would the board technically have to be registered as a business now if it isn't already?
Yes, it is declarable...as with trade subscriptions, skimlinks, googleads. It is all 'income'.
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Re: AoS

Unread post by alfer » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:54 pm

Also running a business at home qualifies for Business rates. Grooming animals, humans, car repairs etc.

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