So then cocksuckers. Wot was the first prog lp?

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Re: So then cocksuckers. Wot was the first prog lp?

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Missi,

Since the mid-seventies, I have been a big ELP fan. Martyn Hanson is a massive ELP fan! Pre-internet days, we got to know each other, via an ELP fanzine, sadly long since lost touch. Anyway, we used to share ELP concerts. I had two video recorders so was able to copy, just this alone made me very popular with other ELP fans.

Many years ago, my older cousin, who used to be a big ELP fan and collected most of the British music press articles / interviews regarding The Nice and ELP, up to the 1974 hiatus and kept it all in seven scrapbooks. He passed those scrapbooks on to me. Anyway, I lent them to Martyn Hanson and he kindly have me a thank you credit in his book.
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Think I will play some Nice now. So thanks for inspiring me 😊
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Missi,

For us, as kids, growing up in the seventies. Emerson was the Prog God. He was the ultimate. He invented it and everyone else was beneath him, so I guess my opinion is a touch biased.

I'll give you a Lancashire, where I live, prog folklore fact. Discovered by Paul McG from pink fish. I might have posted this before, if so, forgive me, we ain't getting any younger. Take the three prog Gods. Emerson and the two Andersons. Draw a line between Todmorden, Accrington and Blackpool. (Yes, I know he was born in Scotland) and it intersects in a village called, Langho, five miles from Blackburn on the A666. This village is the recognised centre of the Prog world.
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I also think Fretless has a good point about there being an end of prog. A so called last album. Everything has an end. Missi, you said yourself, it ain't prog if it's post 1972.

I seem to recall the prog scholar, Bill Martin, considered the end of prog to be the end of Yes 'Awaken.'

"Wish the sun to stand still
Reaching out to touch our own being
Past all mortal as we
Here we can be
We can be here

Like the time I ran away
And turned around
And you were standing close to me"

The quest was completed.
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Nigel wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:05 am Missi, you said yourself, it ain't prog if it's post 1972.
You mean this:

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That is not MY opinion. (I am making fun of a poster on Snakeoil who had such strict delimitations.)

Prog goes on forever. Trouble is...95% of it (currently) is substandard. As a matter of fact ,two/three years back there was this band - I'm striving to remember the name, Nine Bridges maybe - which did very good interpretation of The Nice sound (all their own material - no Nice covers.)


Wot does this The Nice book have to say of the release date?

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Is the Emerson tribute cd out yet? "Beyond The Stars". I hear there is some sort of legal hold-up.

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Prog laylines.
Cool.

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It was The YES album.
I was late comer.
10 year olds weren't noted for their progism .
It was all Bowie and Alice with a bit of Mott and the sixties pop we had on the family stereogram until I was about 14. Then when I was 17 punk broke.
Bye bye pwog !

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Missi, Can't find the exact release date but it appears to have been in the shops October 1967 judging by a letter in the book from Immediate, the record label. I see Mick Jagger was initially supposed to produce the album but he decided to bow out. He recognised the power in the music but didn't fully understand it. He recommended the Stones engineer, Glyn Johns.
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Okay. Lets make it Oct '67 .
That really changes things. Especially since a goodly amount of peeps will not accept that early Floyd is prog - that "Piper" is straight psych (popsike).



PINK FLOYD "Piper at Gates of Dawn" Aug '67


THE NICE "Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack" Oct '67

MOODY BLUES "days of Future Passed" Nov '67

HAPHASH AND THE COLOURED COAT Featuring the Human Host...." nov '67 (exceptionally strange "progressive" lp for this time)

ART "Supernatural Fairy Tales" Dec '67

VANILLA FUDGE "Renaissance" June '68

FAMILY "Music In A Doll's house" July 19 '68

MOODY BLUES 'in Search of the Lost Chord" July '68

TOUCH - SAME (I haven't found exact date. They recorded 67-68, lp released in '68. The only non-UK band here.)

VAN DER GRAFF GENERATOR "Aerosol Grey Machine" Jan '69 (some say Sept '69 ) first release was German, not UK

PROCOL HARUM "Shine on Brightly" Feb '69 (some say Sept '68

CLOUDS "Scrapbook" Aug '69

RARE BIRD - SAME Dec '69

RENAISSANCE -SAME Dec '69

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Moody blues ....gawd they were shite eh ?
Even you can't like the Moody's , Wal !

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