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Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by CN211276
Fretless wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 9:01 am Speaking of K-scope acts, the new Tesseract album 'Sonder' dropped into the letterbox this week. Their last 2 discs 'Altered States' and 'Polaris' just blew me away with the combination of massive riff-walls and delicate ambient atmospheres - so expectations were high.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJKsmaGtrjo

Tesseract call their music 'ambient metal' and are seen as part of the 'Djent' movement (named after the sound of palm-muted powerchords, or something. Slinger, help!).
Anyway, the new album is less immediately accessible and I suspect it will take a few listens to get into. The metal-mania is there along with occasional 'scream' vocals (which I intensely dislike) despite the fact that the vocalist can sing rather well. And the smooth and intricate quiet passages of multi-layered guitars which I would like to hear more of.

For the adventurous audiophile there is a 2-CD version available with a 'binaural' remix disc of the whole album, especially created for maximum enjoyment on headphones. It does have some very nice in-your-head spacy effects. Great fun.

Try the other albums first, but Tesseract are growing and maturing. :music-rockon:
Had a listen to this and liked it, the 24 Bit Qobuz stream being a bonus. There seems to be quite a bit of good modern prob around by bands i have not heard of which this forum is bringing to my attention. I am very much rooted in the 70s and lost touch with things new after the 80s.

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:35 pm
by Nigel
I always considered, beyond the truly great prog acts, the big six and their spin off acts. Also Giant, Camel, Focus, UK, Renaissance, the big three Italian acts, and a handful of others, there really isn't anything of such a consistent high quality. I reckoned if I hadn't heard of the album by now, from the original classic period, the only valid reason was because it was second rate.

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:34 pm
by Nigel
This might interest some of the prog fans here.

https://mailchi.mp/d34597ecc173/rare-vi ... 16257b3ead

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:59 pm
by Karnevil9
There is a very simple Equation

Number one British Prog Band: Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Number one Italian Prog Band: Premiata Forneria Marconi

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 am
by Chunk McDaniel
The Shoe gazing movement was similar to prog but with less facial hair.

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:54 am
by CN211276
Karnevil9 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:59 pm There is a very simple Equation

Number one British Prog Band: Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Number one Italian Prog Band: Premiata Forneria Marconi
Were the latter better known as PFM? They were quite popular when I was at school, going back 45 years, and were commented on as a classical jazz band.

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:44 am
by Fretless
I could never really get into Italian prog and PFM are IMHO vastly overrated.

One Italian prog outfit I quite like is the operatic Barrock with two lady singers:
Barrock / Oltre i monti

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And Lacuna Coil - but that is more sort of Symphonic prog-metal :character-beavisbutthead:
LACUNA COIL delirium full album hd

A very strange LP from the seventies was Pierrot Lunaire's 'Gudrun', Italian band with an English girl on vocals. Also very classically-orientated but rather abstract and experimental. Intriguing.
Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun (1977) Full Album

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Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:47 am
by scotty38
I have PFM - Cook which I haven't listened to for nigh on 40 years, might give it a clean and drop it on the TT.....

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:42 pm
by Karnevil9
CN211276 wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:54 am
Karnevil9 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:59 pm There is a very simple Equation

Number one British Prog Band: Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Number one Italian Prog Band: Premiata Forneria Marconi
Were the latter better known as PFM? They were quite popular when I was at school, going back 45 years, and were commented on as a classical jazz band.
Yep PFM & they are not over rated. ofc i only entertain them up to Chocolate Kings LP even thought it's 1975. They were ofc signed to Emerson, Lake & Palmers Manticore label.

Re: Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:57 pm
by Nigel
Genesis only performed the Lamb, three nights in succession at one venue in the world!