Utterlessly Pointless discussion about Prog

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Karnevil9 wrote: Sat May 12, 2018 6:26 pm Music lovers!
Notice that I said 'other music lovers' trying to include you in the category.

I needn't have bothered, obviously.

Music and creativity don't interest you. Just a specific fashion.

Do you wear an anorak? it would explain a lot.

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No but you obviously wear blinkers

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Fretless wrote:

"One group that tried to go punk but failed rather uncomfortably were Gentle Giant with the album 'Civilian'.
Not their best work."


Okay, you say they tried to go punk.
Not sure about that but all I know is that this lp certainly does not have any of the punk trappings - to my ear, its GG going straight rock.

Also...everyone trashes "Civilian". WRONG. This is an excellent lp, albiet not prog persay.

Similar story when anadian prog group FM went rock; "City of Fear" is a good lp.

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Hey, Missy! Long time, no see.

You have to remember the musical climate prevalent when 'Civilian' came out. GG were having to compete with bands like The Clash and The Jam and went for it with a harder straight rock sound, as you said.

Unfortunately it didn't pay off and signalled the demise of the band.

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There are some pop new wave influences on Giant For A Day and The Missing Piece as well don't you think?
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They were certainly making moves into that direction, but I think that 'In a Glass House' has an edgy, experimental feel that predates and points towards New Wave

But nobody else sounded like Gentle Giant.

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Do any of you listen to Mozart, he was pretty progressive.

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Did he have a punk period Doc? :grin:

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My opinion is that punk breathed new life into the music industry. On a creative level and on a business level with many of the bands starting their own labels and going down the diy route. By passing the greed of the big labels snd causing them to rethink their business models.

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