Krautrock - an appreciation

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by slinger » Wed May 16, 2018 7:42 pm

From what I remember a lot of the 'Krautrock' bands who are actually German dislike the term intensely. A Kraut, by the way, is not only a derogatory term for a German, but it's also German for cabbage...which was the original insult. Now, just to throw a spanner into the works, what about the term 'Motorik?' Motorik was the name invented (by English-speaking journalists yet again) to describe the repetitive, driving, almost robotic 4/4 beat, that backed 'Krautrock' tracks. So by that definition, if it ain't 4/4 with a driving beat it ain't Krautrock.

My personal opinion is that calling non-German bands Krautrockers is as daft as profiling English bands as Americana, which seems to be popular now. Just my opinion, obviously.
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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Wed May 16, 2018 8:17 pm

The term "Krautrock" wasn't invented in Germany and wasn't meant as a compliment, but afterwards was taken over, and now stands for a lot of German bands, mostly of the seventies. When we take the definition of the 4/4 beat, then Hawkwind for example has to be called "Krautrock", too. But nobody would ever do so. And back to the similarities of Prog and Krautrock: Both were leaving stepped out pathes at their time and did something unheard before.

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Wed May 16, 2018 8:31 pm

I listen to a typical Krautrock record at the moment - CAN Monstermovie - to proof the 4/4 theory and have to say, yes it's true and a lot of fun!

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by slinger » Wed May 16, 2018 8:47 pm

Hannes-Gregor wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:31 pm
I listen to a typical Krautrock record at the moment - CAN Monstermovie - to proof the 4/4 theory and have to say, yes it's true and a lot of fun!
Jaki Liebezei is the perfect example of Motorik.
Let's throw another 'label' into the mix. Hawkwind are Space Rockers. :mrgreen:
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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Hannes-Gregor » Wed May 16, 2018 8:51 pm

slinger wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:47 pm
Hannes-Gregor wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:31 pm
I listen to a typical Krautrock record at the moment - CAN Monstermovie - to proof the 4/4 theory and have to say, yes it's true and a lot of fun!
Jaki Liebezei is the perfect example of Motorik.
Let's throw another 'label' into the mix. Hawkwind are Space Rockers. :mrgreen:
Maybe the first Space Rockers, but doing a lot of 4/4, too.

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Mississippi Blind Child Assburn » Wed May 16, 2018 11:26 pm

Liebezeit was astonished to have CAN labelled as so-called Krautrock
Reichel (Rattles,Machines,etc) disliked the term, as did Amon Duul's Weinzierl.

Faust & - I think it was NEU - use the word in their song title, but I suppose disparagingly.Refusing to accept. Jokeingly. *

* is there even such a word??

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Chunk McDaniel » Thu May 17, 2018 2:55 am

Never listened to any of this music untill this thread but really enjoying Can and Neu. You can hear the influence they have had in todays music. Great stuff cheers for the information.

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Karnevil9 » Sat May 19, 2018 11:54 pm

Mississippi Blind Child Assburn wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 2:06 am
Starglow Energy were Swiss, not Krautrock.
The term refers the German, Austrian & Swizz

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Mississippi Blind Child Assburn » Sun May 20, 2018 1:21 pm

Jimmeh, you just say that cos you like Brainticket.

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Re: Krautrock - an appreciation

Unread post by Karnevil9 » Sun May 20, 2018 5:06 pm

& Ertliff but it troo

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