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I liked the 12ac back then but have to defend the *earliest* 12D's at least a bit. A school-pal of mine bought one in his first proper stereo set and the arm was very good on the face of it, with excellent bearings and the deck had a quiet (through the speakers) motor. A year later and I was working in a Watford store based over two nearby sites (one shop, other warehouse) selling over twenty five of the darned things EVERY SATURDAY (I think KJ Watford bought over thirty PL12-D's a week for a good while - the Pioneer distributors must have imported thousands a month at the time, before VAT shot up to 25%). Quality was slipping by then and when the mk2 came out, they were pretty horrid!

I also agree the PL112-D was awful sounding - the flexible 'sub-chassis' must have had something to so with it. We hardly sold any...


If the Sansui 717 was the one that sold on it's lower-than-anyone's W&F figures (yes folks, specs ruled), i remember it being a feedback special, the hollow metal base being like a drum skin when tapped while playing... Another pile of potential poo selling for stupid money! - in my opinion...
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your not getting the belt drive '313' mixed up with the '717' are you?

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RD: One there wants some work on the plinth
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIONEER-PL-1 ... 0290.m3507

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Karnevil9 wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:53 pm your not getting the belt drive '313' mixed up with the '717' are you?
This one, made of little more than painted tin as I remember...


https://www.vinylengine.com/library/sansui/sr-717.shtml
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I have three TT that is enough for the moment.

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A shame to have thread drift on a really interesting and thought provoking OP. Could the t/t posts be moved to their own thread?
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Ask Terry.

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