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This warrants a new thread as it is not appropriate for TAS.

The big drawback of Qobuz is that the 24 Bit Sublime+ option requires a hefty initial annual payment with no trial period. I plan to initially take up the standard 16 Bit option where there is 30 day trial period and see what I think. Roon is not an issue as I don't have it.

What I don't like about Tidal is that Masters is only available through a desk top. It is an improvement but does not sound as good as normal 16 Bit Tidal through my streamer and phone App. I am also beginning to think that MQA and everything associated with it could be a bit of a red herring. There is still a lot of mystique. 24 Bit seems a better choice.

From my standpoint the Qobuz catalogue is attractive. Following emails from me they have filled a couple of gaps. I also like the facility which allows you to transfer playlists from other streaming sites.
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I know bugger all about streaming but am excited to learn

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I tried Qobuz a few years ago and was disappointed by the (then) limited catalogue. The SQ was acceptable at 16bit - certainly better than Spotify.

Might be time to have another look.

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CN211276 wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 8:53 am
What I don't like about Tidal is that Masters is only available through a desk top.
Just for info and not in anyway pushing Roon (I care little what software people use) but MASTERS is fully visible in the app based controller within Roon, this image from my iPad.
Also even if you don't have an MQA enabled DAC the Masters selection still stream at 24bit, you just don't get the fully unfolded version of the file. See second Image.
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Thanks for the info. Tidal should be more informative.
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I have taken up the 30 day trial period with Qobuz and the 16 Bit SQ is indistinguishable to Tidal through these years. It is unfortunate that 24 Bit is not included in the trial period. I can stream 16 Bit from both providers via the BubbleUp App, but am uncertain if this App is compatable with 24 Bit, I think it might not be. If this is the case, would anyone more tech than me know of an App that is? It would need to operate through the Sonore microRendu streamer via android. I would not wish to stream from the PC.
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Looking at Bubbleup it claims to support 24bit, if the underlying environment also supports it.

Spotted an Android app called 'Hi-Fi Cast + DNLA' which might help,

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The only reference i can find on the Bubbleup settings to 24Bit is a facility to convert 24 Bit to 16 Bit. Hifi cast+DNLA does not appear to interact with streaming services.
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I believe Tidal Masters can also be played with Audirvana+.

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After a lot of frustration i finally solved the problem. A Qobuz section was buried deep in the BubbleUp settings and difficult to locate. I went to Computer Audio for advice and someone came back shilling a rip off product. On investigation I found it was sold by MCRU :angry-screaming: He is everywhere.
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NVA BMU, P90SA/A80s (latest spec), Cube 1s, TIS, TISC(LS7)
Sonore OpticalRendu, Chord Mscaler & Qutest, Sbooster PSs
Network Acoustics Eno, ifi iPurifier3, AQ JB FMJ, Cisco 2940 & 2960
DH Labs ethernet, BNC & USB cables, Farnells cat 8 ethernet cable

Second System
NVA P20/ A20, Cubettes, LS3, SSP, SC
Sonore MicroRendu, Chord Mojo 2 MCRU PSs, AQ Carbon USB cable & JB FMJ

Headphones
Grado SR325e/Chord Mojo, Beyerdynamic Avetho/AQ DF Colbat

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