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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by _D_S_J_R_ » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:15 pm

Bottom line. AVI's little active speakers suit a particular client very well, and many of their clients seem to want less clutter and it would appear, have all but disposed of all the records, CD's and 'separates gear' they once had and I believe most of them stream everything now.

P.S. Is it only me who regards top-range Sennheiser and similar headphones rather too smooth, bland and overly-safe in sound?
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Unread post by joe » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:24 pm

_D_S_J_R_ wrote: P.S. Is it only me who regards top-range Sennheiser and similar headphones rather too smooth, bland and overly-safe in sound?
I only use Stax headphones these days. All the other top-range ones sound bland by comparison.

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Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:32 pm

DSJR - Again you miss the point, they are a perfectly valid product even if I don't like them, from a perfectly valid company. The thing just about *everyone* with half a brain cell objects to is the nasty silly arse who (if you are right) used to own the company but is still the mouth for them Ashley James, and his arse like sidekick / head spammer Jesus Christ from Brum. Between them they pollute the internet with bullshit and lies about AVi products.

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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by Fretless » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:43 pm

joe wrote:
_D_S_J_R_ wrote: P.S. Is it only me who regards top-range Sennheiser and similar headphones rather too smooth, bland and overly-safe in sound?
I only use Stax headphones these days. All the other top-range ones sound bland by comparison.
I'm also no fan of Sennheiser's - always found them dull and lifeless. :music-listening:
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Unread post by _D_S_J_R_ » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:50 pm

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:DSJR - Again you miss the point,
I think I 'get it' more than you'll ever know (where I'm personally concerned too), but I'm not going to speak about the individuals as they can holler for themselves and do, daily ;)
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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:56 pm

Once again that explains nothing. Once again your post (I am referring to) focused on product, the product is not in question it is largely accepted for what it is as you say in your post. The problem is with the people in the company. So stop the mysterious winking claptrap and give an opinion on the subject.

The only problem with the product is it is hyped and bullshitted by these people into being something it is not.

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Unread post by Geoff.R.G » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:58 pm

Fretless wrote:
joe wrote:
_D_S_J_R_ wrote: P.S. Is it only me who regards top-range Sennheiser and similar headphones rather too smooth, bland and overly-safe in sound?
I only use Stax headphones these days. All the other top-range ones sound bland by comparison.
I'm also no fan of Sennheiser's - always found them dull and lifeless. :music-listening:
I use HD25s for monitoring and I have to say that the "Amperior" (an improved HD25 with a microphone for use with a mobile phone) is markedly better, especially when fitted with an HD25 cable and ear pads, the suede ear pads didn't do anything for me. Both are better than the over bassy Bose QC range, but I can forgive the Bose headset as it makes flying more pleasant and quieter.

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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by diggerrum » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:04 pm

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:DSJR - Again you miss the point, they are a perfectly valid product even if I don't like them, from a perfectly valid company. The thing just about *everyone* with half a brain cell objects to is the nasty silly arse who (if you are right) used to own the company but is still the mouth for them Ashley James, and his arse like sidekick / head spammer Jesus Christ from Brum. Between them they pollute the internet with bullshit and lies about AVi products.
Sigh, Sometimes, you just can't help some people :roll:

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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:07 pm

diggerrum wrote:
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:DSJR - Again you miss the point, they are a perfectly valid product even if I don't like them, from a perfectly valid company. The thing just about *everyone* with half a brain cell objects to is the nasty silly arse who (if you are right) used to own the company but is still the mouth for them Ashley James, and his arse like sidekick / head spammer Jesus Christ from Brum. Between them they pollute the internet with bullshit and lies about AVi products.
Sigh, Sometimes, you just can't help some people :roll:
Do you have an opinion about anything else JC.

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Re: ATC v AVI v EV bake-off

Unread post by joe » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:28 pm

The AJ/JC entity wants to have it both ways; spout highly dubious claims about AVI products' technical specifications, then resort to 'you just need to listen' when called on those claims. If all you need to so is listen, then the specifications are irrelevant, but if AJ/JC want to claim that AVI products are technically superior then they need to be able to back up those claims rather than resort to unsubstantiated assertion. I notice their technically-savvy designer steers well clear of forums.

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